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Snorting Suboxone, Not Too Good On My Nose!

by blacklabel
I do between 1/4 and 1/2 of a 8mg pill of suboxone a day, insuffulated. Problem is that when I go to sleep at night and lay down, both nostrils usually become extremely plugged. It doesnt help that I have allergies that even when I'm not doing subs that my nose is rarely clear. But it sucks hard to have completely stuffed nostrils. Basically I can't breathe out of them at night (if I was ever tied up and had my mouth taped, I'd die cause I couldn't breathe!! 8o ).

It's not bad during the day, in fact right now I can breathe nearly completely out of my nose... just when I lay down they clog way up. What happens at night from breathing through my mouth, my mouth gets extremely dry in like 30 minutes. So when my nostrils are very plugged, I have a hard time getting any sleep (like last night was bad, I got like 4 hours of sleep) cause I'm always waking up to get a swig of water.


Now you might say, "well don't snort them dumbass!". Yeah I know, in fact its probably not good for the nasal membranes and nose for other reasons than they clog up. But for my money and for the buzz, I find snorting to be much better than the sublingual method.


So I guess what I'm wondering is if anyone else gets this and if theres any meds or sprays that help. Since I have allergies, I get Zyrtec and Singular. Previously it seemed like they helped but now neither does much for the completely stuffed up nose. I also get Nasonex spray but it doesnt do anything for a stuffed up nose.

Anything OTC? Or would something like a humidifer in my room be helpful?

Hell last night was so bad I got up in the middle of the night after not sleeping at all to use some sort of special Nasal Rinse. It didnt hardly do a thing! I think it was so plugged that it couldnt penetrate. At times I've gone to the 'frig and ate little dabs of hot sauce, cause that shit definitely opens up the nose.

  • bump
    - blacklabel, 8 years ago
  • Drug basics?

    Snorting pills is not healthy.
    - Gary Gnu, 8 years ago
  • If you have generic buprenorphine then snorting would be effective (more effective if you get rid of all the binders and fillers); buuuut (correct me if I'm wrong) brand name Suboxone contains buprenorphine (partial agonist) AND naloxone (antagonist).
    This is to protect against abuse, when you use Suboxone sublingually, most of the naloxone doesn't reach your blood stream, so you will feel an opiate buzz because of the buprenorphine, but if you ingest the full pill at once you will likely feel nothing at all and possibly be sent into withdrawl (not sure?) because of the antagonist.
    - amodelninja, 44 years ago
  • ^ nah. the only way the naloxone will do anything is if its IVed. Snorting will not 'activate' the naloxone.
    - johanneschimpo, 8 years ago
  • Snorting anything will eventually most likely lead to a deviated septum which is no fun. I have a deviated septum on the right side of my nose when I got punched in the face and sometimes my nostril entirely closes. Your nose wasn't meant to sniff any foreign substance, so I recommend that you stop and hope that your septum recovers and returns to its normal state.
    - PARooolller, 8 years ago
  • Hey mate, I dont know if you are still on SMT, but it may not be the suboxone clogging your nose. If it is fine during the day, but the symptoms occur when you lay down, it is most likley related to a sinus problem.

    I had the problem for about 6 months. At the time I was snorting OC, and hydromorph. I was fine in the day, but when I layed down, instant clogging of the nostrils. The symptoms worsened. AS you said it is very annoying to breath through your mouth to sleep.(dry mouth being the main reason)


    I went to see a specialist, and low and behold, I had a very large benign tumor the size of a plum in my right cheeckbone sinus cavity. It ran thru my nostrils completly clogging them, and hung down the back of my throat, impairing my speech due to the fact that my tongue would hit the tumor instead of the roof of my mouth. This caused me to not be able to complete syllables and made my speech very goofy with certain words.



    so maybe you should go get it checked out.

    It really fucked up my sleep and was extremly bothersome, and created some very fucking uncomfortable sleep unitl the problem was fixed.

    *the tumor was removed via surgery.
    - tingtangman, 8 years ago
  • I do between 1/4 and 1/2 of a 8mg pill of suboxone a day, insuffulated. Problem is that when I go to sleep at night and lay down, both nostrils usually become extremely plugged. It doesnt help that I have allergies that even when I'm not doing subs that my nose is rarely clear. But it sucks hard to have completely stuffed nostrils. Basically I can't breathe out of them at night (if I was ever tied up and had my mouth taped, I'd die cause I couldn't breathe!! 8o ).

    It's not bad during the day, in fact right now I can breathe nearly completely out of my nose... just when I lay down they clog way up. What happens at night from breathing through my mouth, my mouth gets extremely dry in like 30 minutes. So when my nostrils are very plugged, I have a hard time getting any sleep (like last night was bad, I got like 4 hours of sleep) cause I'm always waking up to get a swig of water.


    Now you might say, "well don't snort them dumbass!". Yeah I know, in fact its probably not good for the nasal membranes and nose for other reasons than they clog up. But for my money and for the buzz, I find snorting to be much better than the sublingual method.


    So I guess what I'm wondering is if anyone else gets this and if theres any meds or sprays that help. Since I have allergies, I get Zyrtec and Singular. Previously it seemed like they helped but now neither does much for the completely stuffed up nose. I also get Nasonex spray but it doesnt do anything for a stuffed up nose.

    Anything OTC? Or would something like a humidifer in my room be helpful?

    Hell last night was so bad I got up in the middle of the night after not sleeping at all to use some sort of special Nasal Rinse. It didnt hardly do a thing! I think it was so plugged that it couldnt penetrate. At times I've gone to the 'frig and ate little dabs of hot sauce, cause that shit definitely opens up the nose.



    (if I was ever tied up and had my mouth taped, I'd die cause I couldn't breathe!! 8o ).
    Lol


    Seriously though, I can relate (I feel your pain). The best thing for that is Sudafed®, the name brand is what I use. Regardless, you want straight pseudoephedrine hydrochloride tablets. They come in 30mg. I'll take 2 (SOMEtimes 3) about an hour before I try to sleep.

    If you read in depth about the drug you may not think it would be much help. But I'm here to tell you that I've had many nights like that, some from a "purposefully" clogged and some from my allergies. Sudafed works best for me.

    I hope you get relief regardless.

    PS:
    2 methods that actually work better than Sudafed are:

    1) Running very hot water in the bathroom sink. Trap all escaping steam by putting a towel over your head and the edges of the sink. Now you have a mini sauna. Only problem with that is that for every 10 minutes your head is under the sink, you only get 2 or 3 minutes of relief. But oh what a relief it is! Lol

    2) Using a 3" cut off piece of metal coat hanger, I fashioned a piece of balled up toilet paper at each end (for comfort) . Then with the right about of bending, I got the ends to press against the inside of my nose in such a way that my nostrils were flared [opening the passage by maybe 25-30%.] Be careful not to let it fall out and choke you while you sleep.

    Haha I was laughing so hard as I actually typed out that last response, it soundspretty outrageous.
    - HashBrown007, 8 years ago
  • Snorting anything will eventually most likely lead to a deviated septum which is no fun. I have a deviated septum on the right side of my nose when I got punched in the face and sometimes my nostril entirely closes. Your nose wasn't meant to sniff any foreign substance, so I recommend that you stop and hope that your septum recovers and returns to its normal state.



    I am right there with you.


    Suboxone does not work as effectively if you snort it, I cannot express this enough. Just put the damn pill under your tongue (while not talking, eating or drinking anything) and it will suite you perfectly. When insuffulated it does not last nearly as long and thus you will need more and if you are using it for opiate maintenance do your body a favor and take it how your doctor tells you too. Insuffulating does not guarantee you will absorb 8 mg etc.
    - Winding Vines, 44 years ago
  • ^
    I disagree.

    Sublingual may actually not last as long as intranasal. But I think they're about equal. In regards to the actual moa affecting(not including first pass) duration, the absorption time is what is a factor. When you're taking it sublingually, all of the SL Bupe is absorbed within 15-30 minutes. Intranasal absorption takes about the same time.

    From my personal experience with both, they are pretty much equal other than BA. Duration and onset is about the same. But, strength may not be. That's due to bupe's higher bioavailability when taken intranasaly.

    Other factors(half-life, elimination/clearence) that affect duration of the drug that's in your circulation aren't changed by the moa.
    - phrozen, 44 years ago
  • Snorting anything will eventually most likely lead to a deviated septum which is no fun. I have a deviated septum on the right side of my nose when I got punched in the face and sometimes my nostril entirely closes. Your nose wasn't meant to sniff any foreign substance, so I recommend that you stop and hope that your septum recovers and returns to its normal state.

    Definitely the truth. My mom had to get her's cauterized and some weird operation from doing coke.
    - Broken_LCD, 44 years ago
  • ^
    I disagree.

    Sublingual may actually not last as long as intranasal. But I think they're about equal. In regards to the actual moa affecting(not including first pass) duration, the absorption time is what is a factor. When you're taking it sublingually, all of the SL Bupe is absorbed within 15-30 minutes. Intranasal absorption takes about the same time.

    From my personal experience with both, they are pretty much equal other than BA. Duration and onset is about the same. But, strength may not be. That's due to bupe's higher bioavailability when taken intranasaly.

    Other factors(half-life, elimination/clearence) that affect duration of the drug that's in your circulation aren't changed by the moa.

    Ok I just snorted a 8mg suboxone after reading how wonderful and great it was on the posts about it on here... it's been about 20mins and I don't feel much except congested in my hose and a little bit woosy - definitely not a "opiate" feeling or high... what gives? :\
    - evolutionofthemind, 44 years ago
  • This really doesn't sound like a healthy living question
    - chucky1432, 6 years ago
  • stop snorting subs
    - bfisher, 6 years ago
  • Hopefully all of you complaining of stuffed noses aren't snorting 1/4, 1/2, or 1 whole of an 8mg Suboxone at once. Even 1/4 is way too much to snort at once, and it's going to result in pain, irritation of the nose and eye, and loss of a lot of the drug.

    Snort no more than 1/8th at a time. I've been snorting my Suboxone for 19 months straight and haven't had a single issue with it, mainly because I never snort more than 1mg every 30 - 40 minutes. That's not efficient for a high, but honestly, I don't care about your high. You shouldn't be abusing Suboxone like that anyways. I can't tell you what to do, but I can choose not to help you get high.
    - sixpartseven, 6 years ago
  • Snorting suboxone works good if your trying to conserve because when you snort sub you get a better BA rate then sublingual. Im sure its not good for your nose but it does make the sub kick in faster, last longer and you seem to get better absorption threw the nose!

    For example:
    I can snort 2mgs of Suboxone and it will feel the same as putting 4-5mgs under my tongue.
    - JahRed24x, 6 years ago
  • Hopefully all of you complaining of stuffed noses aren't snorting 1/4, 1/2, or 1 whole of an 8mg Suboxone at once. Even 1/4 is way too much to snort at once, and it's going to result in pain, irritation of the nose and eye, and loss of a lot of the drug.

    Snort no more than 1/8th at a time. I've been snorting my Suboxone for 19 months straight and haven't had a single issue with it, mainly because I never snort more than 1mg every 30 - 40 minutes. That's not efficient for a high, but honestly, I don't care about your high. You shouldn't be abusing Suboxone like that anyways. I can't tell you what to do, but I can choose not to help you get high.

    imo abusing opiate receptor blockers of any sort is retarded... your contradicting yourself everytime you try to get 'high' off a drug that you've been given by a doctor with a phd to try n get you off/keep you from getting sick from the opiates... its just so stupid. One day when you actually want to kick opiates, and your dose isnt keeping w/d's away anymore due to a tollerance... its gonna get messy everytime.
    - bfisher, 6 years ago
  • Except I'm not trying to get high, and I've been taking the same dose (if not less as time goes on) for the entire 20 months. It's completely possible to snort your dose while not trying to get high. It's just another method of admin. Why is it any worse than sublingual use, except for the physical damage to your nose? It's not, as long as you don't over-do it and take more than you need.
    - sixpartseven, 6 years ago
  • If the tumor info and deviated septum info did not discourage the OP, try using pure SALINE MIST in your nose. Its great for any type sinus congestion, infection, etc. Get the plain saline mist -- NOT medicated mist.
    - Snowbear, 5 years ago
  • imo abusing opiate receptor blockers of any sort is retarded... your contradicting yourself everytime you try to get 'high' off a drug that you've been given by a doctor with a phd to try n get you off/keep you from getting sick from the opiates... its just so stupid. One day when you actually want to kick opiates, and your dose isnt keeping w/d's away anymore due to a tollerance... its gonna get messy everytime.

    The reason why I'M looking for other ROA is because doing it sublingually doesn't work for me anymore. For some reason the batch of pills that I got at the pharmacy stay rock hard under my tongue and don't break down right (the other batches that I’ve gotten dissolved just fine, and got into my system via the sublingual route just fine). I have even broken the pills into 2mg increments and it didn’t make the problem any better. It's like I just put a little pebble under my tongue... it's that fricken hard. Even when the damn thing FINALLY dissolves, the dissolved juice doesn't get absorbed by the veins under my tongue like it's supposed to. I tried to contact the pharmacy but they said because it’s a controlled substance they can’t replace it… I’d have to get another prescription from my doctor. That’s great but every doctor visit for me is $100, not to mention re-buying more $5 suboxone pills. I’m out of work trying to get into treatment and don’t have that kind of money; my parents have footed the bill for me so far and have helped as much as they are financially capable of.

    I have no interest in getting high anymore... the suboxone high was real nice when I first tried it (mainly from plugging it…), but I have to use too much that way and the effect from that ROA with me doesn't last more than a couple hours; then it's quickly back to WD symptoms, which I want to avoid like the plague. My interest is in making the pills I have left go as far as possible in keeping me well, and I'm very much interested in the best method to do that (highest BA affinity - even though I have no clue what exactly "BA" means or stands for... possibly buprenorphine affinity?). If “sixpartsevens” method of snorting 1 mg every 20-30 mins is the best way to do that, then I'm down... 100%. I'm not worried about 2-3 weeks of "snorting pills isn't good for you", my plan is to be completely done with drugs after this last run on opiates. I tried snorting them earlier, but I was obviously doing way too much (2 mg lines, 8 mg within a few mins), which is most likely why I got a congested head, headache and chest pains the day after. I just want to know what the reliable time frame is for the bupe to be active in my system and keep me out of withdrawal.

    Thanks.
    - evolutionofthemind, 5 years ago
  • ^ Don't listen to that guy. He doesn't know what he's talking about.

    If the pills aren't breaking down, try crushing them up in a folded up piece of paper, then funneling the powder into your mouth and under your tongue. This is actually a good way for everyone to do it because you won't have to wait for it to start dissolving on it's own. A solid pill will take much longer to break down. It's the same logic behind parachuting a drug. Breaking it down ahead of time cuts out a lot of work for your stomach since it would take longer for a whole pill to break down and absorb in your stomach compared to an already crushed pill.

    Surface area, baby. Increase the surface area, you increase the rate of absorption.
    - sixpartseven, 5 years ago
  • ^ Don't listen to that guy. He doesn't know what he's talking about.

    If the pills aren't breaking down, try crushing them up in a folded up piece of paper, then funneling the powder into your mouth and under your tongue. This is actually a good way for everyone to do it because you won't have to wait for it to start dissolving on it's own. A solid pill will take much longer to break down. It's the same logic behind parachuting a drug. Breaking it down ahead of time cuts out a lot of work for your stomach since it would take longer for a whole pill to break down and absorb in your stomach compared to an already crushed pill.

    Surface area, baby. Increase the surface area, you increase the rate of absorption.

    Should I be concerned that there could be something potentially wrong with the pill itself though? I definitely want to be sure I'm getting all the buprenorphine that should be there...
    - evolutionofthemind, 5 years ago
  • Nah, there's nothing wrong with your pills. They might just be a bit harder for some reason, but I doubt they have any less drug than they are supposed to. Shit like that is tightly regulated.
    - sixpartseven, 5 years ago
  • Nah, there's nothing wrong with your pills. They might just be a bit harder for some reason, but I doubt they have any less drug than they are supposed to. Shit like that is tightly regulated.
    Well what if they had been sitting around for longer then they were supposed to, or kept in poor temperature areas etc? Can't that kind of stuff change the molecular structure?
    - evolutionofthemind, 5 years ago
  • Poor temperatures can, but they would have to be extreme conditions that pharmaceutical drugs won't be subjected to unless in the hands of a patient. Shipping centers and pharmacies keep that stuff tightly controlled.

    Also, most pharmaceuticals - with the exception of things like antibiotics - have a shelf life longer than humans; they'll be about the some potency long after you and I are dead. Expiration dates are only given to appease the FDA who demand an expiration date be put on anything for human consumption.
    - sixpartseven, 5 years ago
  • While I realize that snorting suboxone is not a healthy behavior, I have tried that, as well as the sublingual method, and I too found the effects to be more pronounced and enjoyable when insufflated than when taken under the tongue, and last just as long (note, I am not taking suboxone because of any previous opioid dependancy). I do agree though, that snorting more than 1 mg at a time for someone w/ little or no tolerance can be unpleasant.

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6T7W-417N7JK-K&_user=4421&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000059598&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=4421&md5=a7b023ea58b3325474123c50b454bf45

    If I read this right, this article put the nasal bioavailability of buprenorphine at 48% for humans and 70% in sheep. However the discrepancy may be the result of differing equipment used for administration (see article). Wikipedia has the sublingual bioavaiability of buprenorphine at ~50-60% in "high-dose pill" format, but at 30% when administered in ethanolic solution. Since the sheep and human studies were administered with a polyethylene glycol solution, its possible that since the variation in administration technique makes so much difference, the nasal BA might be the same as or close to the sublingual, which would fit mine (and others) experiences.
    - Mr. Tambourine Man, 5 years ago
  • Plugging it is even better ^^

    But i know this is an old thread, but if your getting high on suboxone, you don't need more then 2-3mgs. Less is always more with the subs.
    - mmmCHRISx, 5 years ago
  • I snort my subs everyday, you have the same mucus membraines in your nose as you have under your toungue.it werks for meee!
    - sulliest.1980, 5 years ago
  • I was obviously doing way too much (2 mg lines, 8 mg within a few mins), which is most likely why I got a congested head, headache and chest pains the day after.

    Another issue that affects your physical health is inhaling the pill dust into your lungs. If you're experiencing CHEST PAINS after snorting Suboxone, chances are you're seriously harming your airways and not just your nose. IMO, it's a far greater cause for concern than any potential damage to the nose, yet it is rarely mentioned and most people don't even realize as it happens. One obvious way to tell if this is happening is if after snorting the pill powder in, you exhale out any dust from your mouth. Also, pay attention to see if you have any difficultly inhaling easily or feel the need to stop inhaling/exhale prematurely (like when you take a large bong rip) during insufflation of the powder, as these are sure signs that pill dust is entering your lungs and irritating them. If so, I would advise quick, deep breathing in and out of the mouth in an attempt to expel any unsettled dust from your lungs.

    Pills that are designed to be taken sublingually are easier to crush and result in an extremely fine powder compared to oral (especially time-release) formulations like OxyContin, which is nearly impossible to crush as finely as Suboxone. Such fine powders will stay airborne longer than those which are more coarse. Because of this, snorting pills like Suboxone will cause a significant amount of pill dust to be inhaled into the lungs, whereas snorting crushed OxyContin is less (although still somewhat) hazardous because a greater percentage of the pill will settle in the nasal cavities/throat before reaching the lungs.

    [As a side note, pound for pound (hopefully not that much though), inhaling OxyContin dust is much worse than Suboxone dust [I'd imagine] because OxyContin contains TALC, which is EXTREMELY BAD for your lungs. If I remember correctly, talc is carcinogenic (causes cancer) and cannot be removed by the body once inside your lungs, although this could be incorrect or inaccurate. I am also assuming Suboxone doesn't contain talc because it's sublingual and almost entirely soluble, and talc is insoluble. If anyone knows definitively, DO TELL!]

    Regardless, dust of any kind is inherently dangerous to breathe, but is to some degree an inevitability; this is why we have hair in our nose and only breathe through our mouths during activities like strenuous exercise (or taking a break from sucking dick for crack). The nasal passage functions as a sort of "air filter" by trapping dust, dirt, hair, and other airborne particles before they reach the lungs. But when you purposely inhale a large amount of very fine material into your nostril(s) all at once, the nose's filtering ability is significantly reduced, if not almost entirely eliminated, especially when repeated on a daily basis for extended periods of time.

    Basically, if you experience chest pain after snorting Suboxone, it's probably because you're inhaling powdered Suboxone into your lungs, causing all sorts of damage and irritation.

    As far as advice, try dissolving the pills in a nasal spray solution and squirting/dropping it into your nose. In fact, if you're gonna dissolve them, try filtering out the insolubles using a coffee filter, and see if you can find a way to get all that nasty sugar out while you're at it. Hopefully this helps someone...
    - got beans?, 5 years ago
  • I do between 1/4 and 1/2 of a 8mg pill of suboxone a day, insuffulated. Problem is that when I go to sleep at night and lay down, both nostrils usually become extremely plugged. It doesnt help that I have allergies that even when I'm not doing subs that my nose is rarely clear. But it sucks hard to have completely stuffed nostrils. Basically I can't breathe out of them at night (if I was ever tied up and had my mouth taped, I'd die cause I couldn't breathe!! 8o ).

    It's not bad during the day, in fact right now I can breathe nearly completely out of my nose... just when I lay down they clog way up. What happens at night from breathing through my mouth, my mouth gets extremely dry in like 30 minutes. So when my nostrils are very plugged, I have a hard time getting any sleep (like last night was bad, I got like 4 hours of sleep) cause I'm always waking up to get a swig of water.


    Now you might say, "well don't snort them dumbass!". Yeah I know, in fact its probably not good for the nasal membranes and nose for other reasons than they clog up. But for my money and for the buzz, I find snorting to be much better than the sublingual method.


    So I guess what I'm wondering is if anyone else gets this and if theres any meds or sprays that help. Since I have allergies, I get Zyrtec and Singular. Previously it seemed like they helped but now neither does much for the completely stuffed up nose. I also get Nasonex spray but it doesnt do anything for a stuffed up nose.

    Anything OTC? Or would something like a humidifer in my room be helpful?

    Hell last night was so bad I got up in the middle of the night after not sleeping at all to use some sort of special Nasal Rinse. It didnt hardly do a thing! I think it was so plugged that it couldnt penetrate. At times I've gone to the 'frig and ate little dabs of hot sauce, cause that shit definitely opens up the nose.

    u ever try using a clamp hose to make it finer? it works perfect on ocxys
    - mrstaco27, 3 years ago
  • how in the hell do u get high on subs? never heard it till now. i thought it was a opiot blocker. my doctor told me i can take 3 8mgs of subs and it wouldnt affect me in any way and i could take as many oxycontins i want and cant od on them. is that true or is he just b.s. me? another question.i know subs have naloxone in it and thats the blocker,i just dont understand how u get high on naloxone(narcan) and remember subs has naloxone in it and subitec dont. excuse my spelling. and to blacklabel u say none of the nasal sprays work for u why not try it like this;(i cant believe im saying this) i see people smashing a oxcycontin by using a hose clamp cuz it made it finer maybe it might help with the subs and use alittle drip of water to loosen it up better after u snort it. if it dont work use alittle bit more water drips. it just might work. enjoy and be safe cuz i never heard of anyone snorting subs!dont narcan take the high away?if so well thats what naloxone is.(a blocker)so i cant understand how peeps get high off of subs. curious minds wanna know!
    - mrstaco27, 3 years ago
  • i been in suboxone threatment for like 9 months, and been getting 16mg everyday under my tongue. And ive been doing little h, for some times in that 9 months also. And i just now tried to snort my suboxone, after reading this thread. I took 1 8mg and breaked it in 2, and chrushed that 2 to powder. First i snorted the first4mg, and like 30-40mins after i snorted the last. And now i actually feel a little highness. :)
    - sqnax, 3 years ago
  • how in the hell do u get high on subs? never heard it till now. i thought it was a opiot blocker. my doctor told me i can take 3 8mgs of subs and it wouldnt affect me in any way and i could take as many oxycontins i want and cant od on them. is that true or is he just b.s. me? another question.i know subs have naloxone in it and thats the blocker,i just dont understand how u get high on naloxone(narcan) and remember subs has naloxone in it and subitec dont. excuse my spelling. and to blacklabel u say none of the nasal sprays work for u why not try it like this;(i cant believe im saying this) i see people smashing a oxcycontin by using a hose clamp cuz it made it finer maybe it might help with the subs and use alittle drip of water to loosen it up better after u snort it. if it dont work use alittle bit more water drips. it just might work. enjoy and be safe cuz i never heard of anyone snorting subs!dont narcan take the high away?if so well thats what naloxone is.(a blocker)so i cant understand how peeps get high off of subs. curious minds wanna know!

    Yes the naloxone is a opiod blocker and if you hsve been taking h and taking subs the naloxone will go on the receptors and kick the h away from them and you will get sick but if the naloxone is on your receptors the h will kick it away if u use it and when you get high from subs its because the bup is stronger than the naloxone
    - sqnax, 3 years ago
  • I guess its worth nothing here that because of very hard subs, I had some "unusual" complications in the form of absorbing waaaaay too much because I was keeping the juice under my tongue for way way too long. This seems like a god send, but once you adjust to subs and they don't do anything anymore, and if you are me, you end up with an impacted colon from too much subs. They also ODed me.... Put me on 16 mgs to start with which was fine for a couple of days, then it built up in my system and I pulled up to school to go to class... ended up hurling everywhere in the parking lot, barely being able to drive home, and having to sleep for a day and a half until I wasnt sick anymore... YAY SUBOXONE! They couldn't figure out why I asked to be put on a light benzo to detox and threw the last script at them. I threw a fit in the DR's office. I hate suboxone, but the point of this is to be careful keeping that juice and undisolved pill under your tounge forever like that.
    - Secobarbital, 3 years ago
  • Snorting Suboxone is stronger, but just isn't a sensible strategy for maintenance. It's going to clog your nose, making you breathe through your mouth when you sleep, which is bad for your teeth (dry mouth) and lungs (nose hairs filter the air). You are inhaling some powdered pill dust into your lungs, as well. For me it seemed like it didn't last as long if snorted, either. Just get into the habit of taking it sublingually. You might need to adjust your dose a bit higher to get the same effect. When you take it sublingually, leave the saliva under your tongue after the pill dissolves for about half an hour, it will be much stronger than just swallowing it after the pill is dissolved (but not necessarily absorbed).
    - WSB15, 44 years ago
  • drip tastes like oranges. Nose candy taken to the extreme... good times with suboxone. i'm trying to get a script if anyone can offer up some advice i'd love a pm on the matter.
    - cure.the.radio, 44 years ago
  • Don't snort subs. I don't care how many people tell you they do/did for how long, your nose will thank you in the long run. I snorted subs for a couple months until the inside of my nose started bleeding and thinning out to a scary level.
    - poppyplanet, 44 years ago
  • how in the hell do u get high on subs? never heard it till now. i thought it was a opiot blocker. my doctor told me i can take 3 8mgs of subs and it wouldnt affect me in any way and i could take as many oxycontins i want and cant od on them. is that true or is he just b.s. me? another question.i know subs have naloxone in it and thats the blocker,i just dont understand how u get high on naloxone(narcan) and remember subs has naloxone in it and subitec dont. excuse my spelling. and to blacklabel u say none of the nasal sprays work for u why not try it like this;(i cant believe im saying this) i see people smashing a oxcycontin by using a hose clamp cuz it made it finer maybe it might help with the subs and use alittle drip of water to loosen it up better after u snort it. if it dont work use alittle bit more water drips. it just might work. enjoy and be safe cuz i never heard of anyone snorting subs!dont narcan take the high away?if so well thats what naloxone is.(a blocker)so i cant understand how peeps get high off of subs. curious minds wanna know!

    Whoa dude I hope you aint still listening to that same doctor!! LOL. First of all someone with no tolerance can get extremely high from subone!! Speaking from experience I was hooked on opiates for a couple years and when I first started Sub I got really high the first couple days. I realize everyone is different and not everyone will get high when going on subs some do. Also if u took 3 8mg subs u sure as hell would feel them if u r not on sub maintenence. ALSO, FOR THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT, U CAN OD ON OTHER OPIATES WHILE ON SUBS. U MAY NOT FEEL THE HIGH BUT U CAN STILL OD. THATS Y SO MANY PEOPLE DIE FROM TRYING TO BREAK THROUGH THE SUBOXONE BARRIER. B CAREFUL MY FRIEND AND B SMART!!%)
    - Jdaddy24, 4 years ago
  • Snorting Suboxone is stronger, but just isn't a sensible strategy for maintenance. It's going to clog your nose, making you breathe through your mouth when you sleep, which is bad for your teeth (dry mouth) and lungs (nose hairs filter the air). You are inhaling some powdered pill dust into your lungs, as well. For me it seemed like it didn't last as long if snorted, either. Just get into the habit of taking it sublingually. You might need to adjust your dose a bit higher to get the same effect. When you take it sublingually, leave the saliva under your tongue after the pill dissolves for about half an hour, it will be much stronger than just swallowing it after the pill is dissolved (but not necessarily absorbed).

    :)Ya when I snort my sub it seems to work 10x better than sublingual. When under my tongue it would kick in and seem 2 just give me a slight body buzz with no mental effects. No mental effects=no craving reduction for me since I used opiates solely for the euphoria that they brought on. When I started snorting the Subs I really cannot say that I got blatant euphoria it seemed to boost my mood just enough for me to not crave opiates. true it does not last as long however I have to use at least 8mg sublingual, I only need 2 mg nasal! I think it works way better than sublingual so much so that I am working on making a subby nose spray8o
    - Jdaddy24, 4 years ago
  • I myself snort the suboxone and my nose doesn't do that.
    So it may be something else wrong, try some
    of those things that go across your nose to help
    you breath at night.
    - edgeman_221, 4 years ago
  • I have been on suboxone for 6 months now. i have gone from 8mg to 24mg a day (90 8mg a month). i use it as directed, i leave it under my tongue for 30 minutes or until it is full dissolved, let the saliva pool up in your mouth. I could not believe when i saw on here that people were plugging and snorting it! the purpose of suboxone is to get off strong opiates. if your trying to get high off it your not going to get clean, you might as well go back to using.
    - brewin88, 4 years ago
  • If you are going to snort your suboxone pills then at least do it the "best" way possible.. Make sure you spray some "Saline Nasal Mist" into your sinuses before

    and after snorting the suboxone. It will help it absorb and will catch most of the "pill dust" from entering your lungs or whatever sense your sinuses are moist

    they will catch and absorb the Bupneorphine. And sense BUPE is water soluble, it just makes sense.
    - Herbal~Jah, 4 years ago
  • If you have generic buprenorphine then snorting would be effective (more effective if you get rid of all the binders and fillers); buuuut (correct me if I'm wrong) brand name Suboxone contains buprenorphine (partial agonist) AND naloxone (antagonist).
    This is to protect against abuse, when you use Suboxone sublingually, most of the naloxone doesn't reach your blood stream, so you will feel an opiate buzz because of the buprenorphine, but if you ingest the full pill at once you will likely feel nothing at all and possibly be sent into withdrawl (not sure?) because of the antagonist.

    Just talked to an addiction DR about suboxone and he told me that it contains naloxone solely so people do not inject suboxone. Naloxone is only absorbed through the bloodstream so if you put the pill under your tongue or snort it, you will not feel the effects of the naloxone. Kinda sucks, since I do enjoy injecting drugs. Does anyone know some sort of cold water extraction type thing to get rid of the Naloxone in a suboxone pill so I can inject it? That'd be cool.
    - rofl_227, 3 years ago
  • I snorted suboxone once at the hospital and I found it really burned. They only gave me 4mgs though so I guess I couldnt have expected much. It's a good thing I snorted it though becuase the dumb nurse at he ER wanted me to just swallow the pill. I learned later that had I done so, I would have received 0 effects because the drugs in suboxone do not absorb through the stomach. However, overall, I dont think suboxone is a great pill to snort, burns a lot and it doesnt really get you all that high anyways. Its not designed to do so.
    - rofl_227, 3 years ago
  • drip tastes like oranges. Nose candy taken to the extreme... good times with suboxone. i'm trying to get a script if anyone can offer up some advice i'd love a pm on the matter.

    Just go to a hospital, tell them your an opiate junky and you want to go on suboxone maintenance. They will give you the info to see an addiction doctor who is licenced to prescribe you methadone , suboxone etc. They even gave me a free dose of suboxone at the ER cause I said I was w/drawing. Even if your not a junkie, just do a bunch of opiates before your appointment with the addiction doctor and it'll be in ur piss. I live in Toronto, CAnada and thats what I did. They gave me a choice between methadone and suboxone. Suboxone is better and theres less hassel with it except its a lot more expensive. If you have insurance that covers it thats great, otherwise methadone costs about 5-10 $ a dose here in Canada depending on the pharmacy. Very easy to get on either drug. Not sure if its the same in the U.S or Europe though.
    - rofl_227, 3 years ago
  • Idonno if anyone's said it yet but use otrivin nasal spray or drixoral nasal spray
    The active ingredients are xylometazoline or oxymetazoline if I remember right
    That shit will unclog ur nose like magic but be warned once you've been using it for a while ur nose will be clogged shut without it

    Seriously though this shit works wonders for a clogged nose I've been in ur situation snorting subs and a lot of other shit and this clears anything up
    - Smokey McPot, 3 years ago
  • snorting suboxone is the tits
    - laCster, 3 years ago
  • Ok well i chose to snort suboxin cause honestly I cant afford to go to the dr. and actually get it prescribed, I was an addict for 4 yrs and I lost everything I had... my house my relationship w my family. I was stealing and everything... If I snort suboxin I can make it last 3-4 days.... and I can buy it for 25 dollars a pill, which is a drastic change from spending 150 a day on my habit. I have been off drugs and clean for 6mths due to suboxin :) And for the man up top if you are prescribed suboxin for a drug habbit and you snort it you should of already knew that any kind of pills can cause a clogged dose espically when you lay down. Theres days that are worse than others but
    - lesbian, 2 years ago
  • This thread is ancient, please don't bump old threads.

    rofl_227, please use the edit function to add to your posts instead of triple-posting.

    closed.
    - Oxide, 2 years ago

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